Saturday, March 31, 2012

Ron Weinland: A Church of God "Jonestown" in the Works?



There was a post on Face book yesterday about Ron Weinland and his latest message to his followers.


Just heard this morning that Ron Weinland has told all his followers that the end is here and if they have any money saved up they should spend it. I have a cousin who is spending two weeks in Hawaii, and a sister who is planning a trip there too.

Is Ron prepping his group for his upcoming imprisonment?  Or, does Weinerdude have something worse up his sleeve. It will only be a matter of time till Ron Weinland or some crazy splinter group leader flips out and hundreds will die.

Then there could be this scenario with Weinderdude.  It is almost a given he will be imprisoned for tax evasion.  With any luck they will imprison the Second Witness also.  I then can imagine Ron's next prophecy.  While he is  in prison, there will be a large earthquake that will free him and his co-conspirator wife from prison just like Paul and Silas.  Then they can finish their two witless witnesses work.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Living proof yet again that Herbert Armstrong was a kook generating generations of kooks to continue to lead the kooks in their kookiness.

It's insanity dressed up in wool suits.

Sound mind -- pshah!

Do these people have to die to clean out the shallow end of the gene pool?

Anonymous said...

This is just frightening to consider. I know that sometimes you're guilty of a little puffery, NO2HWA, but in this case, I'm just a little bit worried that you might not be guilty at all...

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be amazing if, before Weinland is jailed, he were to have a fit of conscience and finally tell his followers something like:

"Brethren, Joe Tkach stole my retirement. Now the government will be providing me a 'retirement' that I could not otherwise afford. That's sad, but what is even sadder is the un-Berean mentality Herbert Armstrong and Joe Tkach cultivated in their followers. You should have left me in 2008 after my first false prophecy was confirmed, just like people should have left Herbert Armstrong in 1934 after his. I'm nota witness, I'm not a prophet. I'm a guy who was mis-trained to serve as a minister in a dysfunctional personality cult that lost its central personality (which was always HWA, not Jesus). But human nature is such that sheep are always looking for a shepherd, and a trained shepherd is always looking for sheep. I urge you to look to Jesus Christ as your shepherd, and to use my ministry as a cautionary example of what you should NEVER allow to happen to you again. Trust the powers of discernment God gave you. Jesus and the apostles were active in their community and frequently dined with "non-members." Stay the hell away from any group that becomes insular as our group became. We became a textbook case of co-dependency; you used me to satisfy unhealthy needs instead of engaging with reality, and I used you in return. Now, I know a few of our "elders" will try to salvage this thing and keep up their own followings, but I implore you: DON'T LISTEN TO THEM. Join a healthy church. Engage with the community around you. And don't believe some Ambassador-mistrained nut who says "the end is near." As mad as I am at HWA for getting me into this mess, I'm madder at myself for letting myself get duped. I'm sorry that in the course of trying to make sense of it all to myself, I duped so many of you. But ultimately you need to look at yourself and ask, "Why did I let myself get duped?" Be honest with yourself about what you thought you were getting from all of this, and don't let it happen again."

Hey, a guy can dream. There's still a potentially healthy/helpful resolution to the Weinerdude saga, if only he would have the nerve. He can either be one more (and one of the less successful) of the Armstrong Mini-Me's, or he can become the #1 example of a guy who exposed from within the dangers of the HWA mindset.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

Douglas Becker said, “Living proof yet again that Herbert Armstrong was a kook generating generations of kooks to continue to lead the kooks in their kookiness”.

MY COMMENT – With all due respect Douglas, Herbert W. Armstrong was many things, some not good. Herbert W. Armstrong was a successful businessman who built his business empire on the backs of the small and insignificant. He developed a brand of fear religion and a business model that included effective use of the print, radio and television media to advertise and build his brand. His business model was so successful that many have tried to copy and emulate his fear religion brand and business model – some of whom could be classified as “kooks”.

Herbert Armstrong may have been eccentric, particularly after wife Loma died, but he was no “kook”. As the old adage goes, ‘give the devil his due”.

Richard

NO2HWA said...

Anon:

Most of the time that puffery is deliberate. We have become too immune to the craziness of certain people in Armstrongism over the decades that we easily dismiss the kooks. But who would have thought one of our own would murder adults and children during a chruch service. Who would have thought our own would stalk and kill fellow chruch members. Who would have thought our own would abuse and kill their own children.

That puffery makes us stop and think well, maybe, just maybe it COULD happen. There are too many Weinland's, Pack's, and Meredith's that open their mouths and say incredibly STUPID things and the people let them get by with it.

Jarring, "no that can't be true, headlines may just be enough for a few people to wake up.

Anonymous said...

With all due respect, Herbert Armstrong was one of the kooks.

I guess you don't have the same library shelf I do.

Pitty.

But as a member of the V Resistance, I will fix this, hopefully very soon.

I think you will enjoy Donna.

Anonymous said...

Once again, we witness the devolution of another wannabe Elijah. Obviously we know who they aspire to be, but somehow they always end up being Fertilijah.

BB

Anonymous said...

Elijah? I think not! More like Fertilijah!

BB

Andrew said...

These guys all take pictures of themselves with their hands like that, in a red leather chair with a globe. As though that actually meant something. Pathetic little copycats. If HWA had had a Hitler moustache, these guys would all have one too. I wish he had, they we'd have all known who they all are right away.

Anonymous said...

But Andrew, if Herbert Armstrong had a mustache he couldn't have been a bare faced liar.

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