Saturday, May 26, 2012

Ron Weinland: Still No Jesus



The sun has not set on the West Coast and Pacific Islands, so Weinerdude's false "jesus" still has time to return.  But don't count on it.

The apostate false prophet, Ron Weinland is already making excuses for his latest failure.  He posts today:

The “present truth”—truth that we have at this moment in time—truth that is “presently” with us is a possible reality that is not easy to carry. We have believed that Jesus Christ would begin his return in the atmosphere of this earth today, the Sabbath day of May 26th. We have believed this to be a matter of timing for sundown in Jerusalem toward the end of May 26th.

As I write this, that time is just about here and nothing has begun in the world that would signal the need or purpose for that reality—Christ’s return. Yes, it could still take place, as the timing in this present day of a worldwide observance of God’s Sabbath is still ongoing. Such is fully in God’s hands and according to His will, as to what comes to pass and when. It is true that after the captivity of Judah in Babylon that the Jewish people began using the Babylon system of counting time and God did begin to deal with them more according to the type of system they had begun to use. Certainly the weekly Sabbath and annual Holy Days were still counted according to God’s calendar of timing.

So today, I will still look for the possible fulfillment of all those things we have looked forward to right up to the end of the Sabbath day in Hawaii, as that is the timing used today in this modern world.

Yet I feel compelled to write this post, as I strongly feel it is necessary for God’s people right now. I will still look for the possibility of Christ’s coming right up until the very end of this Sabbath on earth. For the sake of all God’s people, I hope that there is not more we must learn concerning Christ’s return, but it appears we likely do have more to “see.” We know there is much that God has been revealing, in the manner that He has, which is due to a great spiritual war that continues right up to the coming of Jesus Christ. We have come to “see” (by experience and revelation from God) that God reveals to us what we need when we need it, especially during this end-time and the closing out of this age of mankind, with the process of bringing to an end Satan’s influence and rule in this world.
 So what will he do Sunday or Monday when nothing has happened?  The time and date in Jerusalem is now the 27th and Jesus has not returned on Jerusalem time.

As the hours progressed this morning toward what we have looked to as a final countdown to Christ’s coming, there have been those things that have been flooding my mind that I have not wanted to address, but felt I should. I have experienced this every time in the past when God has begun revealing His will and purpose to me—revelation of more truth—understanding and clarification of truth already given.

We have indeed gone through many mixed feelings over the past few weeks as we have approached this Pentecost of 2012. The anticipation of such an event right up to the last minute reminds me of Abraham when he was about to follow through with the sacrifice of his own son. The feelings and emotion of such a time cannot be understood nor appreciated until having experienced something similar in faith. We now relate more to Noah than we ever did in the past. Such is pleasing to God that people remain faithful to the end when God intervenes to fulfill His word or to reveal another way. God revealed another way to Abraham. As I consider these truths, I understand the outrage that some will manifest by these words. I also understand the relief that God is giving me to “see” what He is revealing concerning “another way,” or an addition and clarification of “His way” to bring the end-time to a close.

By the end of this day, in the last time zone for this Sabbath day, if Jesus Christ has not begun his return to this earth, then we will do as a minister in the Netherlands said to me today concerning what God admonishes His people to do, “We move forward.” Indeed we will, for we know God’s Church.
 More forward with what?  More lies and deceptive filth?  Scripture tells all the followers of Weinerdude that if he utters just once prophecy and it fails then he is to be labelled a false prophet and is not to be followed.  But his followers will continue on with him swallowing his filth as if it was God inspired.


So candidly, I am disappointed that Jesus Christ hasn’t begun his return. But I am also excited to know that there remains a short work in front of us. That will be explained in the Pentecost sermon that I will be organizing and prerecording as soon as I finish writing this post.
 I wasn’t disappointed when God revealed to us that the two witnesses are not literally killed and then lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 ½ days. That revelation was easy to receive. That which God is now revealing is a little more difficult because we had our hope so set on Christ coming on this Pentecost. Knowing that he may not is indeed disappointing, but it is not something to shake our faith in any manner. Instead, we take the good with the bad and we move forward!

That which is most important is that we follow God where ever He leads and however He leads us. The reality is that due to what God is now revealing, I am also encouraged to see that much of what was written in 2008 – God’s Final Witness will become more meaningful and more powerfully revealed.

These things I am writing at this moment are being done so quickly in order to inform all God’s people that we are to “be strong and of good courage.” What we are living is not easy, but it is all for a very great purpose. Do not become discouraged, even though we know what is ahead will be difficult. People will have to face matters of employment, humility, finances, ridicule, etc., but we move forward ever thankful that the past 3 ½ years were not of great physical tribulation on this earth with the suffering it would have brought with it. But what is ahead is not easy. It will be difficult, but God will see us through.

Having said all this, I am now going to begin working on the Pentecost sermon that will be posted as soon as it is finished, just as this past Sabbath’s prerecorded sermon was posted. In this manner we can begin regrouping and refocusing on what lies ahead. Time passes and our hardships and trials will pass, and in all this God will be with you and give you the strength and intervention you need to move forward.

This Pentecost sermon will explain much. God has been merciful to us and has revealed so much to us over the past few years. He continues to do so. Wait on Him for He will not forsake us nor leave us.

Through all this my initial hope remains the same, as the sun has not set on the 26th in all the world. But if we must go forward, then so be it! God’s will be done.

It will be interesting to see how he lies to his followers on Pentecost.



23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Weinland is just another sociopath churned out by Ambassador College turned psychopath.

There is still no Jesus after 50 years of Meredith's blathering.

The blood of the deaths of children killed to avoid the false prophecy to come falls on all the heads of the Armstrongists (fortunately, one death was avoided today).

No matter.

Onward to "go forward" to the felony trial.

Anonymous said...

Ron Weinland wrote: "...By the end of this day, in the last time zone for this Sabbath day, if Jesus Christ has not begun his return to this earth, then we will do as a minister in the Netherlands said to me today concerning what God admonishes His people to do, “We move forward...”

Well, it appears Ron is going to continue "moving forward" by spewing out more of his "comforting warm fuzzies" to his devoted followers

Ron probably thinks he may have just passed over another "bump" in the road as he proceeds forward.

I see that Bob Thiel would like to see Ron repent; however, Ron cannot repent anymore than Bob can. Why not? One would need the goodness of God, first:

"Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?" Romans 2:4

Both men need to change/repent, and if God does not grant them repentance, then what can Ron or Bob do about that?

Well, if nothing else, perhaps Ron Weinland can empathize with Job, because things just didn't work out the way Job wanted them to in his life either.

"When I looked for good, then evil came unto me: and when I waited for light, there came darkness." Job 30:26

And Job did "move forward" too and now enjoys a nice "dirt-nap," but I think Ron is going to continue to encounter evil and darkness the further he proceeds forward to what he perceives is "good" and "light," but time will tell...

John

Anonymous said...

And so will the verdict in the trial.

Anonymous said...

Roderick Meredith sets the standard for the long con in Armstrongism by being a false prophet for 50 years.

Ronald Weinland is just an amateur by comparison.

Those in the Armstrongist Churches of God need to consider this when they choose which false prophet they follow in defiance of Jesus Christ's explicit commands.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

Jesus Christ returned today on May 27, 2012. He returned in the spirit. Didn't you all see it happen exactly as Christ's second coming return is described in the Gospels? Therefore Ron Weinland is a true profit (ooops, I mean prophet) of God -NOT.

Richard

Anonymous said...

Lake of Fire Church of God said...
Jesus Christ returned today on May 27, 2012. He returned in the spirit. Didn't you all see it happen exactly as Christ's second coming return is described in the Gospels?

Richard , as you know, the phrase "second coming" is nowhere found in the Bible! But putting that aside, it is no wonder the Apostle Paul wrote the following regarding some of Christ's thoughts:

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." Hebrews 13:5

I mean; if He never leaves His sealed Firstfruits, then why be concerned about a "second coming?"

And Richard, on the other hand, after Christ was murdered, took a "dirt-nap" for 3 days/nights, was resurrected, went to Heaven for a short period of time...and then He had a "second coming" to earth, which lasted about 40 days...

To come or not to come????...that is the question!!!!

John

Steve said...

"Christ went to Heaven for a short period of time...and then He had a "second coming" to earth, which lasted about 40 days..."


MY COMMENT: Where does it say that "Christ went to heaven for a short period of time", and then came back?

Anonymous said...

OK, then, we're waiting for Christ's third coming.

Anyone up for a fourth, a fifth.

Uh.

Scratch the fifth.

Too many people are having a fifth as it is.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!

Anonymous said...

A prophecy as accurate, no doubt, as Ronald Weinland's.

"You'll be sorry! You'll see!"

Empty words -- more empty than ever.

I believe in God, not false prophets and sychophants of false prophets.

To mock them is to gain a blessing.

Steve said...

Anonymous said...
Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!

MY COMMENT: You're kidding, right? God's "ANOINTED"? Now, THAT'S mocking God...to say that some lying, con man is "god's anointed"!

Anonymous said...

No one will ever have to repent for mocking a false prophet. In fact I think it may be rewarded. Weinland should at least have the good grace to emulate Harold Camping and simply disappear.

And as far as writhing before God before being tossed in the Lake of Fire, I say this: Look to yourself, heretic.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

Anonymous May 27, 2012 7:00 AM said, ”Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not be mocked!”

MY COMMENT – Thank Mr. Ron Weinland! And I didn’t think you had the guts to show your face today after you showed the world what a fool you are, and what a joke Armstrongism is. I stand corrected!

Good luck in your tax evasion case next week. I am sure the Feds have slapped a tax lien against your house (and tax liens are a bitch to get released). Federal taxes pay for all the services we receive from the USA including living in a free country bought and paid for by brave Americans who died so that YOU Ron Weinland can be a buffoon and deceive many people in your “fear religion” Herbert Armstrong copy cat religion.

Oh, and Ron, I am very familiar with Herbert Armstrong, what he wrote and what he said. And guess what Ron? YOU are NO Herbert Armstrong. You are not even close!

When you are picking up the litter in your orange jump suit along the US Highway paid by for taxpayers along with Bubba, please THINK…yes Ron THINK… about the brave Americans who died so that you could be free, and how YOU cheated our great country out of its fair share of income tax. Just like you cheated God’s people into believe you are God’s end time witness from the Book of Revelation, when in fact you are nothing but a fraud.

Richard

Anonymous said...

"God will not not be mocked!"

Oh sure he will be. People have been losing faith since 31/33AD depending and scoffing at the concept of "soon" for 2000 years.

I hardly think we can be blamed for that rather obvious observation and all the misery and false hope it causes hominids.

M.T.Clouds

Anonymous said...

They are all just becoming more like Jesus, the original failed prophet.

jack635 said...

"Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!"

That's funny. lol
And sad.

Byker Bob said...

To the anonymous poster: Who told you that Ron Weinland was "God's Annointed?" Wouldn't a person annointed by God carry truth and appear authentic, instead of consistently appearing to have been a lying witness and ridiculous? How embarrassing!

No, God would not work through an individual who obviously doesn't know the difference between his butt and a hole in the ground! And, it is both ludicrous and Satanic to assert that God would throw someone into the lake of fire for mocking a pathological liar with a prophet's complex. That would be the kind of person someone with the gift of discernment will be led to reject and to warn others about!

BB

Anonymous said...

What a bloody con-artist, I am so angry with this wanker, not that I ever believed that God let him know the end of days but because I have a inlaw that has been sucked in by this bullshit artist. How could people be so sucked in and so bloody nieve. Makes me wonder! Well like Weinland said, us that do not believe it will happen will suffer a slow painfull death on the 27th. Funny i feel fine right now. Wonder how many dumb asses will fall for the excuses why it didnt happen.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!"



The Messiah (in Hebrew) or the Christ (in Greek) or the Anointed One (in English) was Jesus.

Ronald Weinland is a deliberately ridiculous false prophet who acts like he is mocking everyone who is stupid enough to listen to his complete nonsense.

The problem is that silly people listen to--and financially support--such jokers, and won't listen to any common sense whatsoever.

When it turns out to be all totally wrong, the silly idiots who fell for it will then hate and reject God, and again won't listen to any common sense whatsoever.

Satan uses so-called "comedy" shows on TV to slip in utter depravity. Likewise, Satan uses clowns like Ronald McWeinland to try to make serious biblical matters appear to be utterly ridiculous.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

Anonymous (Ron Weinland) May 27, 2012 7:00 AM said, ”Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!”

MY COMMENT - I caught the typo (?) in Anonymous Ron Weinland's post, and eliminated the double "not" in my re-post earlier.

For Anonymous Ron Weinland to say, "God will not not be mocked!” the double negatives of "not" together means God WILL be mocked!

Is that what you intended Anonymous Ron, or was it a sloppy oversight on your part - sloppy just like your false prophecies?

Richard

Allen C. Dexter said...

It's just about my bedtime on this 27th of May. What a great day it's been. There've been a lot of great days for about two thousand years now while all the crackpots have kept on predicting the imminent coming of their messiah, some even being dumb enough to set specific dates, like you, Ron.

Welcome to the club of failed prophets. Did you get hit in the head with a hard snowball like Ellen G. White did? Or, was your brain somehow scrambled from the beginning?

Even kooky old Herb had sense enough to know a lot of things had to transpire according to the hallucinogenic book of Revelation before there could be the hoped for return.

Daniel is a manufactured, kooky book. Revelation is a manufactured kooky book. The supposed story of Jesus in the Gospels with all its spurious Old Testament supposed prophesies was a manufactured and spurious account dreamed up by guys like you, thrown together by the ignorant riff raff that Constantine forced into coming up with a conglomerate religion to bring some semblance of order to his empire.

Centuries of confusion, false hopes and tyranny brings us to the hodge podge we see today.

I hope, for your sake, that your lawyers are a great deal smarter and more competent in their field than you are in yours.

I send you a "Bronx Cheer!"

John said...

Anonymous said "...Go ahead and continue to mock God's anointed. You will soon be writhing on the ground in front of the Almighty begging for forgiveness as He gets ready to throw you in the Lake of Fire! God will not not be mocked!"

WAKE UP! Weinland's own words condemn him as a false prophet! Whichever "God" Weinland has made claims to represent it's definitely not the true God otherwise he has made Him out to be a liar. And the only one spewing forth lies in this case is Ron Weinland himself! Maybe he should cry louder to his so-called "God" demanding an explanation for his non-appearance. Perhaps he's whiled away the day out in the lovely countryside--it is spring afterall isn't it?--or he's overslept 'cause his alarm failed to go off--did he even know what was expected of him today of all days?!--or maybe he's on the potty with nervous diarrhea (1 Kings 18:27)?! Whichever way you look at it Weinland's been playing with open flame inside a gas plant and it's all about to go to hell for him!

Anonymous said...

"Likewise, Satan uses clowns like Ronald McWeinland to try to make serious biblical matters appear to be utterly ridiculous."

Hey, don't blame this on me. I am not using anyone. Ron is a clown of his own making. Serious Biblical matters are usually more than just an appearance of the utterly ridiculous. They are ridiculous and not all that serious, unless one insists on living in a Bronze Age mentality

Louis C Furr