Friday, June 13, 2014

New Book By COG7 Is Sure To Send Armstrongist COG Groups Into Fits Of Anger

For many decades there were several books that the Worldwide Church of God used and considered "sacred" to the legacy of Armstrongism. They were, Hislop's Two Babylons, Foxes Book of Martyrs and The History of the True Religion.

The History of the True Religion, by A.N. Dugger and C.O Dodd was a mainstay in the church because it reportedly told the story of HWA's contemporaries of the Church of God in Salem, Oregon of which Herbert Armstrong was part of and ordained in.

The latest issue of the The Journal of the Churches of God has an article up by Horst Obermeit about a new book by the Church of God Seventh Day.   

Obermeit says:

Mr. Coulter’s factual reporting from the church’s Colorado archives gives a much better understanding of the history behind the beginning of the Radio Church of God (which was renamed the Worldwide Church of God in 1968 and Grace Communion International in 2009).
The RCG/WCG/GCI began with Herbert W. Armstrong’s membership and ministry in the CG7. Mr. Coulter states in his introduction that the archived records show that Andrew Dugger’s and C.O. Dodd’s book A  History of the True Church made little use of the church’s historical archives.
Rather, the Dugger-and-Dodd book, says Mr. Coulter, is a counterfeit history of the church that has been soundly rejected by the General Conference of the Church of God (Seventh Day) as its genuine history
Then Obermeit mentions something from the book that will send many in the Church of God in to raging fits of denial:
Mr. Coulter shows that the Churches of God are not a continuation of an apostolic beginning. They do not have their origins in earlier Sabbath-keeping Christians in Western Europe.
He states that the claim by various COGs of an apostolic succession is “pure fantasy!” 
He further states: “The Church of God (Seventh Day) had a definite beginning here in the United States. It is strictly an American institution. All of the earliest pioneers of the Church became Adventist through William Miller’s  Adventist movement of the 1830s-1840s.
“None of the earliest founders of the Church practiced Sabbath keeping at the time of their conversion to Christianity, nor practiced an annual communion service.
Then Obermiet mentions how the book has this to say about Herbert Armstrong:

The chapter titled “Herbert W. Armstrong’s Relationship to the Church of God” gives evidence that Mr. Armstrong was less than honest about his relationship with the Church of God (Seventh  Day).
It also points out flaws in Mr. Armstrong’s “egotistical claim of being God’s man of the hour,” as Mr. Coulter puts it.
Imagine that, the Churches of God do not have ties tot the Waldenses that so many of them falsely claim today. The Churches of God are an American invention just like the LDS church is and is not carrying on any apostolic succession.  

Imagine that HWA was less than honest... the house of cards continues to fall down!

This book is definitely being added to my COG collection of books!

Thursday, June 12, 2014

Jan Young Claims The Earth And Every Species On It Was Created In 144 Hours

Jan Young is back with more words of wisdom (page7) for us all.  This time it is on the creation of the earth and every living organism and creature on it.

He created heaven and earth in 144 hours. The Sabbath command includes this:
Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the  seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 
He created heaven, earth and sea in 6 days. He created earth’s biosphere of flora and fauna, not the universe in that time. Each of these 6 days was the same length as the 7th, not millennial-type days, but the 24-hour kind. Same timing described in His Sabbath covenant:
Ex 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
While there is the analogy of 6 millennial type ‘days’ plus 1 Sabbath ‘day’ of about 1000 years (2 Pet 3:8), this is based on the 6 literal days to create heaven and earth plus 1st Sabbath then.

According to that logic, Jan's god created over 8,7000,000 living organisms and creatures in 144 hours. With 6.5 million species on land and 2.2 million in oceans that sure is a hell of a lot of work to do in a few hours.

His god apparently just snapped his fingers and all this came into being.  His kind of god would not be able to sit down and plan each living species out in all its intricate glory.  It apparently just magically happened in 144 hours.

Did you know dinosaurs were created in Satan's image because is the "dragon?"  Young also seems to think that dinosaurs roamed are are still roaming distant worlds.

Since radiometric dating is off, many creationists believe planet earth was created with the universe about 6000 years ago; that dinosaurs and Adam co-existed.—But Lucifer and his angels sinned prior to man (Jude 6). Dinosaurs dominated in world(s) created in Satan’s image of dragon. Though not 65 million years ago since some Tyrannosaurus Rex fossils have been found with soft tissues and blood vessels
Young also has solved the age old question, 'Which came first,the chicken or the egg?"

He does not state anywhere how old the earth or universe is, so is not a liar. Movies in 2 dimensions can seem to show past or future events. Surely God can show more in 3-D. Adam and Eve were made in adult form and so must many plants for them to eat. Animals also made as mature, so the chicken came first and not the egg. Jesus created bread and fish with apparent age in miracles to feed thousands. Created the end products immediately. So stars looking millions of years old at their creation is very possible. Then there are also the eons before Gen 1:1 when the universe existed, and later planet earth (to which many creationists disagree).
Next he combines science with creation myths of Armstrongsm.  That is the only way they can justify all the incongruities in the world around them.
Tameness and no meat eaters rules out many dinosaurs in the time of man, and the beasts in Adam’s time came to him to be named (Gen 2:19-20). Though mankind can on a limited basis tame any animal (James
3:7), as horse whisperer or snake charmer.
Apparently during the Adamic World humans and animals did not eat meat. Note the distinct source of food of Gen 1:29-30. And notice the change after Noah’s Deluge in 9:2-3. Though Abel offered a meat sacrifice to God, sheep are used for more than meat, as wool.
There were differences between that world and now of low relief, not high mountains. No jungles, tundras, deserts or ice caps. Apparently just a one world continent or Pangaea with all continents joined as one. No oceans. Each world-age is unique with special conditions different from other worlds. Though some are the same. The basic foundation of the planet earth remains the same.

ExCOG Member A Highly Recognized Fitness Coach

For many years in Armstrongism I remember hearing one minister after another stand on the stage of the Auditorium or in one of the gym's and state that people who left the church would never be successful since God had removed his blessing from them.

The first case of this was when the Scarborough family sold Ganny's Pantry in Pasadena.  Granny's was a nutritional/health food store located on Arroyo Blvd by Bran's Cleaners. The new owners started keeping it open on Saturdays. Since that was an abomination in some peoples  sight, they expected the store to close down because God was no longer blessing it. Forty some years alter it is still there providing healthy food alternatives even though a Whole Foods market is located a few hundred feet north of it.

The Journal has an obituary up about Harry Sneider and in it Lee Brandon is named.  She was the poster child for the Summer Education Program located in Orr Minnesota in the 1970's.

She was the first woman to be hired by the NFL to train the New York Jets and is a two time winner of the Long Drive Championship.

I love it when people like this make those that utter idiotic comments in Armstrongism eat their words!

Check out here web site here:  Long Drive Champ

Monday, June 9, 2014

UCG: Has It Lost Close To 4,000 Members In The Last Three Years?

UCG has been sending out glowing reports from its latest Elders conference that everything is all peachy-keen in the land of Oz.  UCG members and those no longer part of the UCG know that this is not necessarily true.  More are leaving UCG than are being drawn into full membership.

Prophet Malm has this up today about the discrepancy in UCG numbers:

To quote Roy Holladay from the GCE conference report: This past year, “our Holy Day attendance was over 8,000 in both the latter festivals of 2013 and the first festivals of 2014.”  it still represents a drop in attendance.


2011  worldwide Feast attendance was 12,800.  

2012 The total attendance for all Feast sites sponsored by the United Church of God for 2012 was 12,763. 

Now consider that an attendance of 8,000 is about 4,000 below previous Feast attendance figures, and if that does not include international; it is still a drop.
So where are they going?  To COGWA?  To Bitter Bob's personality cult?  UCG members. like most all COG members laugh at Bitter Bob's little group and have no interest.

At least a thousand [perhaps more; some being replaced by baptizing new folks with no spiritual understanding] have left over the past winter and a few are going to COGWA because of family or friends, many are going to LCG because LCG is the only alternative; and many are standing alone and turning back to God with a whole heart.

Let me be clear here; even if attendance increased above eight thousand for Pentecost, it will still be well below the Feast attendance in the years 2011 to 2013.