Saturday, June 21, 2014

Living Church of God: "Is the Leading Light In the World..the Shining City on the Hill"




Poor Bob Thiel.  Living Church of God continues to stick it to him every time he turns around.  Thiel feels he is the one true church doing a mighty work.  However, LCG members see otherwise. Thiel thought that when he started his personality cult that many members from LCG would immediately jump ship to join him.  It never happened.  Both the corporate LCG and the membership turned their backs on him.  Theil has had to go to Africa in order to get some members that marginally look good to him.

Here are some comments from the LCG Facebook page where members lay it on the line as to what the general membership feel about the various COG splinter groups and who is doing the work.  The thread is built around the topic of  "Will the splintered COGs ever get back together before the return of Christ?"  Incidentally, this very same reason is why David C Pack was such an epic failure in October 2013, and why he will NEVER gain  a large number of LCG members.  LCG has proper church government and is doctrinally pure - at least in their eyes.


There is but one Church of God and it is the Living Church of God, though there are fellowships with the name of God's Church. However, it is the Living Church of God that is preaching with the increasing power of the Holy Spirit the whole Gospel of the soon-coming Kingdom of God and feeding the flock. - calling out for repentance and shouting out the Ezekiel warning to the Israelite Descended nations and to the world. It is the one that has God ordained and commanded governance and Biblically grounded doctrinal certainty. But, though it is the leading light in the world, it is not perfect because none who are part of it are perfect and are prone to human error - making mistakes as Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and Dr. Roderick C. Meredith have humbly confessed. The Church has a degree of the weaknesses of the eras mentioned in Revelation as do all of us imperfect people who are part of the Church of God. Yet we have a greater degree of the Philidephian spirit than elsewhere. And we still hold fast to the 18 truths God restored to the Church of God through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and have not strayed away by being led astray through having itching ears and going on wild goose chases doctrinally speaking. Mr. Armstrong strong advised the saints to focus on the " trunk of the tree " and Dr. Meredith constantly warns us to see the " Big Picture ". This we, through the servant leadership of those God has put in the leading roles of the Living Church of God have done and are doing. We are the lit lamps on the lampstands, the shining cities on the hill.

So will the various COG's every regroup as one unified body?  Apparently Bob Thiel, David C Pack and other COG leaders are "abominations."



I'm not writing about what the world thinks. I'm writing about what God thinks. To Him, divisions which He Himself is not responsible for - divisions which arise from people sowing discord among brethren through factions, heresies or any other work of the flesh - are abominations and that's why "splintered COGs" is very nearly an oxymoron (a self-contradiction). We cannot simultaneously be God's Church - that is, as a people (see below) - and a house divided against itself.

The author above is correct in that a house divided cannot stand. That is why the COG is rapidly in decline.  RCG, PCG, LCG, CCOG and the others are NOT experiencing growth in numbers.  A few thousand viewers to a web site or to a TV program do not result in huge number increases and the doorway to more money flowing.  All the COG's have no presence anymore in TV.  Ask the average person if they have ever seen a COG program or read one of their magazines and 99.999999% of the people will say no.  The current status of the entire church of God is once pathetic mess.
 

Friday, June 20, 2014

God Is Speaking To Me In My Dreams And You Are NOT To Question That!


Bob Thiel is back today working over time to justify the various dreams he and others in his splinter cult have had.  He feels that these dreams are proof that he was destined to start another splinter group and that his god is specifically speaking to him and to none other.

Thiel feels that since this is the end time his god is now speaking through dreams:
While this may not seem to be a massive ‘earth-shattering’ dream, it is yet additional confirmation that God has used dreams/visions to communicate to at least three individuals who all later became part of the Continuing Church of God.  Dreams and visions are something that God intended to use during the end times (cf. Acts 2:17-18; Joel 2:28-29).  Elijah apparently once thought that God would be in something dramatic, but then only was in “a still small voice” (1 Kings 19:11-13).
Thiel and a woman had the first two dreams and the third was by a black man from Africa.
Yet, in addition to various facts, the three dreams (including prior ones from myself and from Fesilafai Leaana) look like God was planning on making it more plain for true Philadelphians (who are in various organizations/fellowships) to see that the mantle location had truly changed. The Philadelphian mantle is with the Continuing Church of God.
Thiel is also still attempting to use Gaylon Bonjours "double anointing" as proof that he is set apart.  Sadly, 99.9999999999999999% of humanity and COG members fail to see that Thiel is a prophet and the rightful heir to the legacy of Herbert Armstrong.
The two confirmations of my anointing, plus the three confirmations on the Continuing Church of God coming from dreams were fulfilled have happened. Plus, we teach the truths from the Bible and biblical prophecy. The witness is there for those who are willing to see it. Those who do not know what to do should pray about it.
Thiel is highly disappointed that people do not believe him.  He even quotes scripture believing that it applies to his situation.  According to Thiel if you are a REAL Christian then you would believe and know that he is without error.
I believe that they are partial confirmations that the Continuing Church of God was to lead (two dreams happened prior to CCOG’s formation), and now is leading, the final phase of the work. The truths that we teach should be accepted as the other proof:
45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. (John 8:45)
Believe the truth, at least for the truth’s sake. Christians are to believe and know the truth (1 Timothy 4:3). The truth sets Christians free (John 8:32) from all types of error (including Laodicean ones, cf. Revelation 3:14-22).
Then to further shame the nonbelievers Thiel uses more scripture to prove that he has three witnesses  to prove he is the one true COG leader and that NO ONE should be questioning him
Although some have chosen not to believe all the facts about how and why the Continuing Church of God began, recall that the Bible teaches:
16 ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ (Matthew 18:16)
19 Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses. (1 Timothy 5:19)
Of course, since Gaylyn Bonjour always freely stated that he did the ‘double-portion’ anointing on me which I reported, there long had been two witnesses to that.
Thiel then closes with the following where he has to point out that the world is filled with nonbelievers who will always question.
Of course, some will discount dreams and their confirmation as proper proof of anything they do not wish to believe.

Of course, some will discount dreams and their confirmation as proper proof of anything they do not wish to believe. Many want more dramatic signs (Matthew 12:38; 1 Kings 19:11-12), but God does not always do it that way (Matthew 12:39-42; 1 Kings 19:12-14).

Can you believe?
The problem with Armstrongism and its false theology is that its members are not capable of discernment.  Members have been so conditioned over the decades to never question. If you do you are turning your mind over to Satan and the possibility of committing the unpardonable sin.  Just look at Theil's admonitions above.  Questioning is NOT an option.  Discernment is not allowed.  

Ron Weinland Lashes Out At "Active" Antichrists


I am delighted to be placed in this category by the imprisoned COG felon Ron Weinland, or as he is known elsewhere Conland Swineland and Weinerdude.

Those Against God

The other area of concern and importance to be addressed here at this conclusion on true fellowship is one that carries the strongest warning and precaution of all. This concerns those who are actively engaged in a pursuit to hurt God’s Church, the Church of God – PKG. Such people fit into one of the most heinous groups of all. This is a great betrayal to God as many of these experienced being mercifully awakened from a spiritual stupor and given far greater truth than when they were first called, yet they have turned against all those truths and against God’s Church as they live as “active” antichrists. 

These are those who after disfellowshipment do not simply “get on with their lives.” They do not simply leave behind that which they say they no longer are in agreement with. Instead, they become consumed with evil thoughts, hatred, disdain, and even torment concerning the activities of God’s Church (of His people). 

Since God and truth do not dwell in the Church of God Preaching the Kingdom, it is especially fun picking the bones off the rotting carcass of Weinerdudes cult.

These are those who feed upon God’s Church and who as vultures seek to pick at anything they can tear away in order to consume in a perverted, foul, and stinking manner. “For where ever the carcass (Gk.- corpse or body, as they see it) is, there will the birds of prey (as vultures) be gathered together” (Mat. 24:28). Such seek to perversely “feed” upon anything they can in order to pass it along to others in a twisted, slanderous, and negative manner. Through such actions and practice, these have unwittingly joined together to give support to the great slanderer and accuser of the brethren.

Imprisoned COG Felon Ron Weinland Plans On Gathering 63,000 COGers Back Together

The Official Beer of Armstrongism

Its amazing the idiots that Armstrongism has created over the decades.  The mere fact that some people still follow Wienland shows how people willingly allow themselves to be duped.

I honestly don't know how Weinland plans on pulling this off since David C Pack has declared that over 100,000 exCOG and current COG members will soon be flocking to him.  Thiel claims he has the ONLY true church and expects many to come to him, too.  These guys obviously never got the memo: "It Isn't Happen'n"

Fellowship and the 63,000
There are yet two primary areas of concern and importance that need to be addressed about fellowship as this subject of true fellowship is brought to a close.

The first area involves the eventual awakening and gathering of the 63,000 who were once part of the Worldwide Church of God although, we don’t know exactly who will be chosen to be part of that group.

So how do you judge whether or not you have any fellowship with them? First, no one should seek out such individuals. If there is any purpose in their coming into contact with you, then God will see to it – He will work it out. If any such individual contacts you or you come across them in some chance manner, then there are certain criteria for judgment.

If the conversation is one of friendship based upon the past, then fellowship may certainly be good, but always understand that it will only be on a physical plane until they are fully awakened by God. They should be treated with a spirit of acceptance and genuine kindness, with the inner hope of their potentially becoming one who is part of this great group, being soon awakened just as we were.

However, if they were a minister (ordained) in the past, they should be acknowledged with kindness, but not with any purpose of continuing fellowship. They should be considered as those disfellowshipped, as they largely have a judgment upon them as spoken of in the Thunders.

In addition, one last area for judgment where some would also be seen as disfellowshipped is if an individual is against the Church of God – PKG, and also if they are teaching and pushing their own ideas or that of some other group.